Seat Bag

I have a Stealth and would like to purchase a seat bag. Lightning sells a "Slip-on Seat Bag" and I'm wondering if anyone uses that one. If so, how do they like it? Does it have an opening for the hose from a Camelbak? Does it have any internal compartments?

Is there another bag on the market that someone has used with their Lightning seat? If so, how do they like that one?

TIA,
Harry

Seat Bag

I have a Lightning bag that came with the bike (used), and it's ok, but I always had to rummage around to find what I was looking for. I like the following Inertia bag:
http://www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/readitem.pl?Accessory=1081461019

Carolyn

Seat Bag

Larry,
I have a Lightning bag also but another bag would be convenient to keep and be able to take the bag away from the bike. I would use it to hold things like cell phone, glucose monitor, snacks and maybe camera. A fanny pack would work for that purpose......and I have several in the closet now.

Where/how do you mount the fanny bag on your P-38? You use both bags......right?
Thanks.
FrankB

Lightning Seat Bag

I have the Lightning seat bag. Like all of Tim's products it is well designed and made. Despite it's large capacity; even when not loaded, it sits unobtrusively behind you. It has two internal pockets and a large main pouch. The pockets are designed to accomodate bladders; but I use them to hold tubes, tools, wallet, and cellphone. The large pocket easily accomodates a medium size frame pump. The top is double zippered so you can easily slip in your drinking tube. I personally prefer water bottles under my seat-especially for gatorade. I stopped at a farm stand recently and had plenty of room for 6 ears of corn for dinner. I also has reflective tape on back, and comes in several colors. I was also caught in some heavy rain, and while not totally water proof, the bag did a good job protecting my wallet and phone. Buy it- you wont regret it.

Seat Bag

I do have a Lightning seat bag, but I only use it for storage. I have a variety of "fanny" packs, also called lumbar or waist bags. They're sold to wear on your hips, and I find that they work absolutely great on the Lightning seats. I have an older Performance brand that is very large and holds a lunch as well as tubes, pump and a small water bag. I have quite a few smaller bags that are easy to take off and carry with you when riding around town.

You have to make sure that the wrap around belt is tight and the pack won't fly off the seat on large bumps. I also put some kind of strap, either velcro or web, over the top of the bag to keep it from sliding down. You can find these bags on sale often, and even at department stores.

Larry

Seat Bag

I bought the Lone Peak bag from Calhoun Cycle that Gary recommended, but will probably return it. I really like the looks of the bag, but it sags onto the fender when I have it loaded with my CamelBak, innertubes, and repair kit and tools. And that is with it just sitting in my garage. I'm sure that if I get out on the road it would sag even further. I've thought about adding some coroplast to the bottom for support, but haven't found an easy way to do that.

I can see no real use for the handle on top, the strap inside, nor the one under the bag, and the lack of an opening for the CamelBak tube is an additional disappointment.

Apparently the differences between the P-38 and Stealth are such that this bag works well on the one bike and not the other. I'll probably give Lightning a call to see if their bag will work on my Stealth.

Cheers,
Harry

Long Peak bag

Hi Harry

I did not try to mislead you on the Long Peak seat bag. I’m sorry it didn’t work for you. My friend has a lightning bag it seems to sag like the Long Peak bag. He likes the Long Peak bag so much that he bought one and replaced the Lightning bag with it. By tightening up the strap in the bag seems to help the sag. I have looked at maybe sewing in nylon straps in the mash of the bag and putting in grommets to help keep it from sagging. As far as the handle after a ride I just take the bag in with me and repack it. Also when I use my velo I put it in the back of it. I carry my tools, tubes, pump, and foul weather gear in it.

I’m a touring type rider and don’t use a CamelBak. We still use water bottles and cages. There are a lot of places to stop and water along our trail. The trail crosses a lot of roads and there has been a number of deaths so the police watch the crossings so you better stop anyway. The water is cooler at these stops vs. carrying a lot of water. I don’t know if the Lightning bag has a hole for the hose of the CamelBak. But either bag you could place the zippers so you could bring the hose out of it.

As far as the bottom strap goes I put it around the seat bar it makes it harder to take the bag. Otherwise someone could walk by and just take it.

The Long Peak bag worked for me and was more then $15.00 cheaper. That’s why I recommended it.

Gary

Lone Peak Bag

Hello Gary,

Not for a moment did I feel that you misled me. I appreciate your suggestion even though it won't work for me.

Presently I'm using a bag that in its former life was one of my daughter's purses. It works fine most of the time, but when the weather turns cold (like now) and I need to take along extra cloths, or take some off when the day warms up, I run out of room.

I wouldn't be able to ride without my CamelBak. It is so easy to just take a sip of water whenever I wish. In hot weather I fill the CamelBak with water and freeze it the night before I ride, so I have nice cold water even when the temperatures climb into the high 90's.

I usually also take along a bottle of Gatorade in a cage that is mounted to the frame, but I'll bet people would chuckle if they watched me get a drink from it while I'm riding. I can't drink with the bottle in my left hand, so I take the bottle out of the cage, hold it between my teeth while I return my left hand to the handlebar, and then grab the dangling bottle with my right hand. The process is, of course, reversed when I'm done with the drink.

Cheers,
Harry

seat bags and Lightning seats

I have attached bags in three ways: 1) The easiest is with the R-84 style seat mesh, because it has grommets going all around the top of the seat. You can run the straps of most any bag at all through this mesh. I think this style of seat mesh should be the standard one because of the ease of attaching bags, camelback water bladders, and the like. 2) With the ordinary seat mesh, I took a razor blade and cut a small opening on top through which I pulled the straps of some cheap bag I found. Works, but not very elegant. Do not cut the hole any larger than needed. If I try this again, I might use a soldering iron to make the incision instead of a razor. 3) To avoid cutting the mesh, I also attached a fanny pack to the rear of the seat in the area below the top section. Just wrapped the straps around the seat from the side. This works better with a Stealth / Phantom or T-Bolt than the P-38, because the 26" rear wheel gives you some wiggle room. The 700C wheel on the P-38 does not have much clearance.

I have no experience with the bag Lightning sells.

Safe riding,
Joel

seat bag

recumbent guy

I have a P-38 and I found a bag I like better then the Lightning bag. Here is the site http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=14&idp... It's price is a little lower. I have a friend who rides a P-38 also he has the lightning bag. We both like my bag better. Hope this helps

Gary

seat bag

I've used the Lightning and I have one of the Calhoun Cycle ,Lightning clone,bags.
They work fine but it's hard to find things in it as they tend to slip to the bottom of the bag.

I have a RANS aero bag now . I've used them before and they fit the seat fine ,but on my current large frame P-38 I had to slit the pocket and resew to get it to fit over the seat.

The seats for the large and med frame are supposed to be the same except for the height of the back so I don't know why the bag is a tighter fit on my large frame than on the med.

Maybe the bags are all a little different or maybe the seat frames are off a little seat to seat.

If I remember correctly the Calhoun and Lightning bags don't have a hole for water tube ,but that would be easy to correct,I did it to my all my tailsoks, sew a patch on bag then cut hole in patch.

Ben

RANS seat bag

As a follow up to my post- I found out why the first bag was so tight.
The older bags had a mesh pocket that slips over the seat back -there's no stretch in the mesh and it's too tight for the Lightning seat unless you cut and re- sew it .
The newer Aero seat bags use an elastic mesh and slip over the P-38 seat fine.
I really like these bags as they are aero in shape , have lots of room and aren't too deep so things don't get lost.
Ben